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Jenny S's avatar

Thank you - I've been waiting for an analysis that captures the flaws in the Fair Play system. Laura Danger and Crystal Britt (whom I have great respect for) have alluded to this in their podcast Time to Lean but I don't know that they've ever quite landed on it (they are also Fair Play facilitators - but they have also crucially identified that Fair Play can only work in partnerships where both parties value equity and egalitarianism. This, though, has often left me wondering, what percentage of partnerships does that actually include? My non-researched hunch is, not many).

Lundy Bancroft in his seminal work on abusive men (Why Does He Do That?) identifies that the difference between angry men and abusive men has nothing to do with how they feel and everything to do with how they think - what beliefs were instilled in them in childhood. Men who abuse partners or children at some level believe it is okay to be violent. I suspect the "inability" for patriarchal partners to "see" the "invisible" labour women are performing in the home has everything to do with an underlying belief that this is acceptable to them based on what they were raised to believe - even if they may at the same time proclaim to be feminists. Due to the patriarchal culture we live in, I'm not sure how any people socialized as men escape this kind of thinking and value system - perhaps they do not, and only get to escape it through critical self reflection and active unlearning.

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Could we work on making men who maintain household labor inequality not only unfuckable, but also *unhireable/unpromotable*?

I understand that this comes with a lot of collateral damage, since this would financially impact the families of abusive men, but it seems like an important part of changing the value proposition of stealing your partner's labor.

I know that for myself and many of my peers, if there is a male coworker/peer that we know is not pulling his weight with his children and/or his partner, or has a general history of pulling patriarchal BS, we do not nominate him for awards, we do not greenlight his job application, we do not write recommendations when he applies for other jobs, etc. The flip side: men who are good parents, partners, and allies get the most generous peer reviews possible. I don't see this as petty-- men who are dead weight at home are usually dead weight at work whenever they can be. However, I don't know that many men are really aware of this, and it's too risky for us to be transparent about what we're doing.

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